Ranoul Autox Aug 18-19

[prostcj]

http://ccsportscarclub.org/

I know a lot of people are going to the divisional event this weekend. Any one going to Rantoul? Russ is setting up the course so it might favor higher hp cars.

[NOPIS10]

man, i would really like to but I don't think it's going to happen.

[digitalseance]

I know a lot of people are going to the divisional event this weekend.
Actually, just three :D Steve Wright has registered his GTO to

I'd be there but...I'll be at the divisional championship.

I'll be there Sept 1st but will be in Chicago for the divisional on Sept 2nd.

[jvb6806]

depends on if i am selling my DSM this weekend. if the guy comes on friday i will be there. if he comes saturday i don't think it will be in the cards.

[HBNR86]

I wont be there either, or anywhere. Gotta get a new clutch before i can do any racing again.

[jstbrd]

Can't make it...track day Monday

[digitalseance]

Guys,
I just dropped the trailer off at Rantoul and there are big problems


There is a tractor with big plow, a trailer and some other farm equipment in the way of our course!

If that isn't moved, there may not be a good course to run on Saturday at least. Hopefully they'll get it moved and it will nothing to worry about.

Good luck, Russ is the event chairman so it should be fast! :)

[RacerX11]

Can't make it...track day Monday

Ditto. Spending tomorrow prepping the car.

[marty]

words from barry

rofles!

i wont be making it, as i just bought a new pimp-mobile and i am broke :P

[jstbrd]

Ditto. Spending tomorrow prepping the car.

You guys going up Sunday or Monday AM? I am just going to leave early Monday...prob 5ish.

[nynone4]

Joe - I'm game to caravan up on Monday. Shall I meet you at your place at 5???

Man, that's early.:D

[RacerX11]

I think Me and TJ will be heading up Sunday night, and Chris is coming up Monday morning. He might want to caravan with you guys.

[jstbrd]

I figure it we leave @ 5 we will be there by 7...since I'll have to get gas when we get to Joliet. That gives us an hour for tech and to get ready for drivers meeting. Gates open at 6.30. 5 is early enough isn't it? If Chris wants to meet up that is cool....he can even ride up w/me if he wants. Lets plan on leaving my house at 5a.

[goodee]

Joe, would you send me a PM with your phone number and directions on getting to your place. I think I remember the way there but old age is creeping up on me. 5am at your place is fine by me. Thanks for the offer of a ride, but I will be bringing my car since I will be carrying some supplies for Marty and TJ.

[jstbrd]

You've got mail. See you in the morning.

[Hornswoggler]

5 star rating for turning an auto-x thread into HPDE arrangements. :D

edit: it warms my heart

[nynone4]

Joe and Chris - see you guys at 5 AM. I'm seriously pumped for tomorrow!!!

[jstbrd]

5 star rating for turning an auto-x thread into HPDE arrangements. :D

edit: it warms my heart

I was going to say something about being off topic but....what ya going to do :)

[goodee]

5 star rating for turning an auto-x thread into HPDE arrangements. :D

edit: it warms my heart

You're rubbing off on more of us than you think. :)

Thank you very much!

[Hornswoggler]

I know it rained on you guys... but able to salvage a good time from the event?

Rain can make a great learning tool... and think of it this way: atleast your novice event is out of the way so you might be able to ditch the instructor next time. :D

[RacerX11]

I know it rained on you guys... but able to salvage a good time from the event?

Rain can make a great learning tool... and think of it this way: atleast your novice event is out of the way so you might be able to ditch the instructor next time. :D


What instructor? We were supposed to have an instructor lead us around the first session for a follow-the-leader, but they sent the first 5 cars out without one, so we were on our own. Didn't see any instructors riding along with novies all day. They had a total of like 4-5 instructors for the whole event, and they were either driving their own cars, or standing around watching us run.

[dnace]

What instructor? We were supposed to have an instructor lead us around the first session for a follow-the-leader, but they sent the first 5 cars out without one, so we were on our own. Didn't see any instructors riding along with novies all day. They had a total of like 4-5 instructors for the whole event, and they were either driving their own cars, or standing around watching us run.

That is sad. I think every event needs instructor ride alongs for newbies.

[Hornswoggler]

That's too bad. I just replied to Mark F. (using the same e-mail where I asked if he needed instructors but he said they were covered...) asking him how many they usually have so I can make the recommendation next year on being newbie friendly or not. Next years local HPDE list might list them as intermediate and above. Even AMS does a better job with instruction these days, doh!

[goodee]

Instructors, we were supposed to have instructors? We were informed of that in the driver's meeting but evidently they didn't want to get wet. As Marty said, we went out on the follow-the-leader first session and we ended up following a guy in a red Camaro. We assumed he was the instructor or had one with him... nope. It was raining, we are unfamiliar with the track, and it was our first track day... we don't need no stinking instructors. Geeeesh!

I had a good time trying not to put Marty's Camaro in to the armco, like at least 4 other people did. I'm beginning to think racing in the rain is like a blind person reading braille--it doesn't matter that you can SEE the track, it's all the other senses that actually get you around a lap.

[Hornswoggler]

Got my answer:

Collin:

We aren't a "Driving School" but rather a lapping
organization so the instructors we have a strictly to
help guide Novices.

Mark Pfeffer

[dnace]

Got my answer:

yeah but they actually do that or just stand around

[jstbrd]

I thought the event was fun. I thought there were a couple areas for improvement but overall a decent event given the uncooperative weather.
1st in the drivers meeting they gave away some good prizes but I didnt have my neckwear so I didn't win any.
2nd in the drivers meeting he confused people on passing...especially for newb's. Bad idea.
3rd instructors should have been standing in line looking for cars that needed an instructor during the 1st red group. Standing there asking is much better than drivers asking...

Overall I think it was a good event. The water made things very interesting in some corners. I would have thought that drainage would have been higher on the list during track design but I guess not. There were multiple areas w/3-4" of water and areas on straights with 1-2" easily. It was craziness, fun though. Really made you be smooth and follow the line, just couldn't use the edges of the track.

Anyone want to change the title of this thread?

[marty]

running in the wet is a ton of fun! wortdog and i were the only two cars on track during a rain session once

[goodee]

running in the wet is a ton of fun! wortdog and i were the only two cars on track during a rain session once

Yes and no. We were running the Hankook race tires because they weren't any worse (tread-depth-wise) than the street tires. There was standing water on the track most of the day which made accelerating (for us) on the straights a handful. The corners turned into short praying sessions but most of the brake zones were decent. After the first guy stuck his Volkswagen R32 into the barrier (he was able to continue with significant right front body damage) all I could picture was me putting the Camaro into the same spot. The guy drifting his G35 through the corners right behind, and right in front of us, got what he deserved however. The armco must love idiots.

[Hornswoggler]

Which corner(s) did they have impact?

Atleast you guys got to learn the track a little bit so next time it will be more familiar.

[nynone4]

I had fun despite the rain and scary driving conditions. Here's a couple slow and slippery laps in the Elise. I got a kick out of Joe's response to seeing the is video - "You didn't apex that corner very close."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PX96ejGCXFU

I didn't apex ANY of the corners close. :D

[dnace]

wow you guys ait't lying about the water!

[goodee]

Which corner(s) did they have impact?

The R32 and the Infiniti went off in front of the (I believe) North Tower--not sure of the corner number without looking at the map. It's where the deepest water was running across the track. Near the beginning of Matt's video where the water is just spraying off his front tires both cars went off on the right.

[Hornswoggler]

matt, you should have BOTH HANDS on the wheel except to shift! :D

[nynone4]

matt, you should have BOTH HANDS on the wheel except to shift! :D

What? Did you watch the video??? The only time I take my hands off are to shift - and once to turn the traction control on in the first lap. :confused:

[Hornswoggler]

What? Did you watch the video??? The only time I take my hands off are to shift - and once to turn the traction control on in the first lap. :confused:

you take a really long time to shift then!

Let me watch it again. I swear you went down some straight aways with one-hand on the wheel. I'll quote some times. :)

[Hornswoggler]

Your downshifts are nice and quick, but your hand leaves the wheel for about 4-7 seconds for upshifts... thats a long time!

I quote 1:23 to 1:17 as my example.

[dnace]

stop critiquing others and come to the street tire battle where we will critique you!

[Hornswoggler]

stop critiquing others and come to the street tire battle where we will critique you!

don't threaten me or I'll perform more segment analysis on you!

I have penciled this one in... should be fun!

[dnace]

don't threaten me or I'll perform more segment analysis on you!

I have penciled this one in... should be fun!

Is there away segment analysis will tell if roadracers get confused when they encounter a cone? :D

It looks like it will be October till the next event I can go to, unless something comes up.

[Hornswoggler]

Any events in october? Who has a link to 2007 auto-x calendar?

[goodee]

www.cir-scca.org

[dnace]

I will be in Chicago on the sep. 21st. I could possibly come back for the 23rd but I was planning on staying up there. Otherwise it will be october. My only mod will be a sway bar at that point, so no where near max for the class.

[nynone4]

Your downshifts are nice and quick, but your hand leaves the wheel for about 4-7 seconds for upshifts... thats a long time!

I quote 1:23 to 1:17 as my example.


Sheesh. Are you bored today or something?

Yeah - I took a "long time" to shift that one time. It was VERY wet (like an inch of water on the DRYER parts of the track). Quick upshifts would spell disaster in the standing water in my car. Maybe I just don't have the talent for driving in the rain that you have Collin. :D

What other excuses should I use to prostrate myself for the video being an example of not being my best work behind the wheel? My wife will tell you that *on occasion* I'm not perfect. Maybe she's right if my own friends are seeing it....

I just posted it as a reference for conditions. :rolleyes:

[dnace]

Collin is never critical. but back to the auto-x collin is going to run...

[Hornswoggler]

I'll retract my statement. From a glance it looked like you were driving one-handed down the straights, right-hand waiting on lever until time to shift, didn't factor in the conditions.

[haunter]

Collin didn't have both hands on my 'steering wheel' when he was pitching last night . . .

[Hornswoggler]

Collin didn't have both hands on my 'steering wheel' when he was pitching last night . . .


ouch, make it funny next time! :D

[haunter]

gee, one would almost think Marty was here and on my computer while I was at work.....I wonder why......

[dnace]

someone fix the title of this thread Rantoul is not spelled Ranoul!

[marty]

i didn't do it!

[prostcj]

I did it but can't fix it.:(

[marty]

I did it but can't fix it.:(

oh, haha... i was refering to this post in my proclamation of innocence :p


gee, one would almost think Marty was here and on my computer while I was at work.....I wonder why......

[haunter]

oh, haha... i was refering to this post in my proclamation of innocence :p

bullshit