View Full Version : Site Re-design
EvoIX_MR2006
06-26-2008, 11:24 PM
CICENet is currently undergoing some site re-designing.
Things will be available as normal until then, but Speedfire will no longer be supported until I have figured out what is causing the bug that causes people to receive security token errors.
Thanks
scrapin_frame
06-26-2008, 11:37 PM
does that explain this white and blue crap?
benny z
06-26-2008, 11:40 PM
precisely.
jvb6806
06-26-2008, 11:48 PM
holy CII!
kickin it old school
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/jvb84/CIIv3-1.jpg
This blue and white shit is bad.
scrapin_frame
06-27-2008, 02:27 AM
This blue and white shit is bad.
i concur! i like the orangish-brown shit better. it makes me feel like i am actually looking at shit
Slow3z
06-27-2008, 03:44 AM
This blue and white shit is bad.
Agreed, this is the second forum that I am a member of that has changed to this panzy ass baby blue and white shit and it looks like shit.
Bring back the old colors! Or is there an option to change the colors, my eyes can't take this shit after I get off work at 3 AM
250 Essex
06-27-2008, 07:22 AM
Sadly, I kinda like it.. Just 'different'.
benny z
06-27-2008, 07:31 AM
actually, it's more like "just default".
again, this is a temporary thing.
chill!
marty
06-27-2008, 07:58 AM
i prefer the fedault view... guess i am boring like that. this redesign include shaking up the moderation staff? :D
haunter
06-27-2008, 08:51 AM
one could only hope
Kazz5
06-27-2008, 09:10 AM
What a bunch of pansy-ass whiners.
Max777
06-28-2008, 12:52 AM
What a bunch of pansy-ass whiners.
I second that.:suck_kr:
scrapin_frame
06-30-2008, 01:53 AM
Please tell me we are gonna have more than default and smooth.
I want the Ubuntu colors
EvoIX_MR2006
06-30-2008, 02:06 AM
Keep on clicking on google links and I'll throw on as many styles as you want!
:D
marty
06-30-2008, 07:14 AM
what is this 'woopra' script doing?
benny z
06-30-2008, 07:50 AM
why does our site suddenly look like a high school web design project?
like the colors, but jesus that logo is butt ugly!
What happened to this place? Looks awful.
EricM
06-30-2008, 09:29 AM
well at leastn ow the page loads are under 8 munites.....
EvoIX_MR2006
06-30-2008, 10:04 AM
Site is a work on progress, logo will be updated in a little while, just wanted to play around with the new style to check for the Security Token issue.
marty
06-30-2008, 10:06 AM
what is woopra? :p
edit - nevermind. you facist! how dare you track my usage!
EvoIX_MR2006
06-30-2008, 10:09 AM
what is woopra? :p
edit - nevermind. you facist! how dare you track my usage!
Noone ever said this was a democracy...
:D
250 Essex
06-30-2008, 10:23 AM
Keep on clicking on google links and I'll throw on as many styles as you want!
:D
See.. I use this OTHER browser called 'Firefox', and it has this interesting technique where I don't see things like advertisements, and sponsor links, or Google links... :cool:
But IF I did see them, I would click them for you.
benny z
06-30-2008, 10:25 AM
lee is hung up on microsoft.
you'd think he'd learn better by now!
:p
250 Essex
06-30-2008, 10:28 AM
lee is hung up on microsoft.
you'd think he'd learn better by now!
:p
Heh, so is my boss.. But I like working in a heterogeneous environment. I miss my slack b0xens :(
benny z
06-30-2008, 12:47 PM
ya know, the more i look at these colors, the more it reminds me of something oddly familiar.
250 Essex
06-30-2008, 12:48 PM
Hmm.. coincidence? :-D I like the CII logo..
scrapin_frame
06-30-2008, 01:14 PM
why does our site suddenly look like a high school web design project?
like the colors, but jesus that logo is butt ugly!
The speedo reminds me of South Park.
jvb6806
06-30-2008, 02:25 PM
the CII logo reminds me of...
http://www.painterschatroom.com/images/ptt/c-h/c-h-logo.gif
scrapin_frame
06-30-2008, 04:21 PM
the CII logo reminds me of...
http://www.painterschatroom.com/images/ptt/c-h/c-h-logo.gif
troof!
benny z
06-30-2008, 04:38 PM
the cii logo is way better.
:D
...and i have no affinity to it. i promise!
jvb6806
06-30-2008, 04:51 PM
my class logo for this year...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/jvb84/poster-1.jpg
scrapin_frame
06-30-2008, 08:21 PM
my class logo for this year...
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/jvb84/poster-1.jpg
might i suggest using a white drop shadow under the black/orange stroked text. ya kind lose it in the trees and it is hard to read.
jvb6806
06-30-2008, 08:29 PM
might i suggest using a white drop shadow under the black/orange stroked text. ya kind lose it in the trees and it is hard to read.
yeah my dad said the same thing (he is a graphic designer [i think that is his official title]). i made it three lines and move some stuff around? other than that does everything look ok?
scrapin_frame
06-30-2008, 08:33 PM
yeah my dad said the same thing (he is a graphic designer [i think that is his official title]). i made it three lines and move some stuff around? other than that does everything look ok?
Other than that it looks good.
Kelly
06-30-2008, 08:44 PM
Me likeys the new colors!
StealsSouls
06-30-2008, 09:06 PM
the new layout is not bad. better than the old one for sure. however, i am still a default user.
dnace
06-30-2008, 09:07 PM
I forgot to send you the speedo from a long time ago jim, sorry
dnace
06-30-2008, 09:08 PM
upon further review I really don't like the red or the new logo :(
jvb6806
06-30-2008, 09:10 PM
the logo is horrible... but i am ok with the color.
haunter
06-30-2008, 10:29 PM
yeha logo bad
scrapin_frame
06-30-2008, 10:53 PM
I am not going to insult the new logo. Having people say your work sucks is very discouraging.
It definitely needs to be rethought though.
One thing to improve would be a totally different speedo maybe with the needle sweep upon rollover because we need something totally useless and amusing for half a second.. Sorta like CII with the lambo door at the top that opened to just say "blah blah blah coming soon"
One thing i learned is to never put something up if there is not gonna be anything there. Like these dumbass websites that have things to click but it all says "coming soon" or "under construction". Thats just bad development.
But enough about CII.
I just want the brown back. Even though i didnt like that wheel in the brown banner, it was definitely better.
jvb6806
06-30-2008, 11:31 PM
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/jvb84/cice-logo.jpg
i could not find the font that lee was using but there is my contribution to the cause.
EvoIX_MR2006
06-30-2008, 11:40 PM
I was actually about to suggest that people start submitting their own images for review by the board.
SO lets do something like that. The winner who's image is picked to be at the top of the site will receive a permanent spot in the Forum Supporters group (no google ads) and two free stickers.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/jvb84/cice-logo.jpg
i could not find the font that lee was using but there is my contribution to the cause.
Fart can needs to be bigger.
jvb6806
07-01-2008, 12:00 AM
Fart can needs to be bigger.
i didn't have enough space to put the one from your subaru on there.
this one better for yoy?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/jvb84/borla-logo.jpg
jvb6806
07-01-2008, 02:12 AM
sweet christ and i bored on a monday night.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/jvb84/cice-logo-cars.jpg
scrapin_frame
07-01-2008, 02:14 AM
I was actually about to suggest that people start submitting their own images for review by the board.
SO lets do something like that. The winner who's image is picked to be at the top of the site will receive a permanent spot in the Forum Supporters group (no google ads) and two free stickers.
can ya give us some criteria? what dimensions? what file type? anything in particular you want included(aside from the obvious)? Any specific color preferences?
scrapin_frame
07-01-2008, 02:15 AM
sweet christ and i bored on a monday night.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/jvb84/cice-logo-cars.jpg
thats not bad.. need c6 though
i didn't have enough space to put the one from your subaru on there.
this one better for yoy?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/jvb84/borla-logo.jpg
Actually it's one of the quietest exhaust for the STI.
dnace
07-01-2008, 08:39 AM
I got cut down too much on my custom work last time, but would be willing to redo it, here is the same start from last time:
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s76/dnace/trialcicestraightfat.jpg
haunter
07-01-2008, 09:11 AM
that has my vote.
benny z
07-01-2008, 09:13 AM
amateurs!
http://www.richpeopleforums.com/images/cicenetlogo.jpg
scrapin_frame
07-01-2008, 11:55 AM
amateurs!
http://www.richpeopleforums.com/images/cicenetlogo.jpg
amateurs? you are reusing an old logo slightly modified. talk about amateur.. unoriginal bastard!
dnace
07-01-2008, 05:36 PM
amateurs!
http://www.richpeopleforums.com/images/cicenetlogo.jpg
haha you wish it was CII
scrapin_frame
07-03-2008, 02:28 AM
Here is one i did real quick. It would be great if i knew what font you guys used for the stickers because i just took that and applied it, but i need it for the "Central Illinois Car Enthusiast Network"
Any help on that would be greatly appreciated.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cicebanner.jpg
250 Essex
07-03-2008, 07:40 AM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cicebanner.jpg
I likey..
Here is one i did real quick. It would be great if i knew what font you guys used for the stickers because i just took that and applied it, but i need it for the "Central Illinois Car Enthusiast Network"
Any help on that would be greatly appreciated.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cicebanner.jpg
Red line is kind of low, this isn't CSS.
benny z
07-03-2008, 08:24 AM
reverse the black/white so that it will flow w/ the white background of the new color scheme, change the bottom font to the CICENET logo font as you've suggested, and we might have a winner.
EvoIX_MR2006
07-03-2008, 08:57 AM
I agree, this one is close to being a winner, if you can get it to flow with the new design, you may have yourself some free stickers and a site w/o ads!
jvb6806
07-03-2008, 10:26 AM
john's banner is awesome but if you switch it from black to white it will look horrible. the red of the gauge will not contrast enough. and you can't just switch the sweeping needle from black to white.
tdiddy
07-03-2008, 11:10 AM
You also need to up the RPMs to 10k! I think I know where you can get a pic of the same tach with a 9k redline maxing out at 10k.
jvb6806
07-03-2008, 11:12 AM
that tach is a graphic that cannot be changed, that or john is illustrator jesus.
Kazz5
07-03-2008, 01:30 PM
A black outline around the gauge would work... *shrug*
scrapin_frame
07-03-2008, 02:19 PM
that tach is a graphic that cannot be changed, that or john is illustrator jesus.
that is correct. although i am working on in in illustrator as well.
I agree though, to change it to white wouldnt look as good. Besides, most people like the dark colors. Change the colors of the website :D
dnace
07-03-2008, 07:37 PM
hey I have that tach as my phone background!
scrapin_frame
07-03-2008, 08:36 PM
this is such a pain trying to do.
the one in illustrator is gonna take me awhile.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite.jpg
its better black
scrapin_frame
07-03-2008, 09:16 PM
i made a couple more
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite2.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite3.jpg
scrapin_frame
07-04-2008, 02:34 AM
Just trying a couple other ways
With Defi logo
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite5.jpg
Without Defi logo so there wont be a copyright/trademark issue
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite4.jpg
scrapin_frame
07-09-2008, 12:54 AM
up because i am sick of seeing the current banner
I see my post was deleted.
jleez
07-09-2008, 11:31 AM
I still think scrapin_frame's earlier attempts are the best. The new ones have too much detail and seem too busy.
That said, here's a variation on the earlier banner:
http://www.jleez.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/banner.jpg
250 Essex
07-09-2008, 12:23 PM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite2.jpg
Or
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite5.jpg
I like the Defi turbo gauge, but not everyone has a turbo, no? Other than Horns of course =P
(Also, I'm biased since I have the same Defi gauge ;) )
Kazz5
07-09-2008, 01:05 PM
I vote for jleez' or 250 Essex' top example from the two posts previous to this!!
250 Essex
07-09-2008, 01:40 PM
I vote for jleez' or 250 Essex' top example from the two posts previous to this!!
My bad. I did not mean to insinuate that I created either drawing. Both were done by 'Scrapin_Frame'. But I would agree with the first (tach) logo.
haunter
07-09-2008, 01:44 PM
x2
Kazz5
07-09-2008, 07:12 PM
My bad. I did not mean to insinuate that I created either drawing. Both were done by 'Scrapin_Frame'. But I would agree with the first (tach) logo.
ROFL - yep, scrapin's sweepin' tach to the right of the logo with a red needle...
EvoIX_MR2006
07-09-2008, 07:48 PM
Just trying a couple other ways
With Defi logo
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite5.jpg
Without Defi logo so there wont be a copyright/trademark issue
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite4.jpg
I tried these out today, and they were too big (in terms of height). I need to do some more testing to see if I can make them fit.
scrapin_frame
07-09-2008, 07:53 PM
I tried these out today, and they were too big (in terms of height). I need to do some more testing to see if I can make them fit.
well i made them 200px x 800px.. i asked for specifics as to what size they need to be, but never heard anything
scrapin_frame
07-09-2008, 08:09 PM
I also need to know what font was used for the stickers so i can use it for the rest of the text
scrapin_frame
07-09-2008, 08:59 PM
now same size as the current banner
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite2resize.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite3resize.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite4resize.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite4resizea.jpg
dnace
07-09-2008, 09:05 PM
I like the second one except for the fact the letters run into the black, try a white drop shadow or something to give some contrast.
scrapin_frame
07-09-2008, 09:14 PM
I like the second one except for the fact the letters run into the black, try a white drop shadow or something to give some contrast.
the text has a white drop shadow where it goes over the gauge
haunter
07-09-2008, 09:54 PM
i like # 2
can you add a slightly bigger drop shadow?
dnace
07-09-2008, 10:51 PM
the text has a white drop shadow where it goes over the gauge
try bigger and less feathered
scrapin_frame
07-09-2008, 11:43 PM
how bout these?
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite6.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/banner5.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/banner4.jpg
just tried a couple things, i am not thrilled with two of them
dnace
07-10-2008, 07:58 AM
first one ain't too bad.
EvoIX_MR2006
07-10-2008, 09:29 AM
They would work if the gauges were full. The only problem with having a gauge that cuts out on the right side is that there is nothing to make it flow with the gauges cut off.
Kazz5
07-10-2008, 10:10 AM
What if you reversed the gauge face to white with black numbers and markings while making sure the gauge frame was a high silver or some-such?
250 Essex
07-10-2008, 10:24 AM
Numero Uno!
scrapin_frame
07-10-2008, 03:35 PM
They would work if the gauges were full. The only problem with having a gauge that cuts out on the right side is that there is nothing to make it flow with the gauges cut off.
But then it doesnt look right because you just have a gauge sitting out there in the white. The edge of the banner dies at the edge of the white area on the page. with absolute positioning it will stay against the edge and look fine.
It makes no sense to me to just place a gauge all by it lonesome where you can totally see the entire thing, but being cut off in it seems to look alot better to me.
haunter
07-10-2008, 04:59 PM
I agree if it doesnt abruptly end it just sits there
scrapin_frame
07-10-2008, 06:42 PM
here is what it would look like
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice2.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice3.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice4.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice5.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice6.jpg
dnace
07-10-2008, 11:07 PM
not sure I like how those cutoff, buuut I will get over it, or you can change the banner size and feather the gauges into white :)
jvb6806
07-10-2008, 11:17 PM
i like the big tach with the logo on the top right. if my opinion matters.
jleez
07-10-2008, 11:45 PM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice4.jpg
I think this looks okay.
I still think the simple tach used in scrapin_frame's earlier banners is the better way to go. In my opinion, a logo should be somewhat... "abstract." Not quite sure if that's the best choice of words, but that's the word I can think of off the top of my head.
Kazz5
07-11-2008, 08:51 AM
So reversing the color of the gauge-face and using your top one or two examples isn't easily do-able? I like that the ".net" somewhat disappears in the gauge-face, since it's black.
Based on what youv'e shown I prefer the 2nd from the top. Still curious about reversing the gauge-face, though...
You're workin' too hard at this, anyway... :D
benny z
07-11-2008, 09:03 AM
i like this one - still need to use the correct font for the site name, though.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice4.jpg
integricerocket
07-11-2008, 11:37 AM
i like the first one
2004BlueSrt4
07-11-2008, 11:59 AM
i like the first one where the .net is inside of the cut off gauge...
scrapin_frame
07-11-2008, 02:01 PM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice8.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice7.jpg
Forgive this one. I was in a hurry placing it and didnt get it down enough to cover the old one, so there is still a tiny sliver there. But you get the idea
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice9.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice12.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice11.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice10.jpg
scrapin_frame
07-11-2008, 02:08 PM
So reversing the color of the gauge-face and using your top one or two examples isn't easily do-able? I like that the ".net" somewhat disappears in the gauge-face, since it's black.
Based on what youv'e shown I prefer the 2nd from the top. Still curious about reversing the gauge-face, though...
You're workin' too hard at this, anyway... :D
Reversing the color is a big pain in the ass. I would have to do a live trace in illustrator and then change colors(if i wanted it to look good).
And yes, i am working too hard on this.. Picky ass ingrates! :p
i like this one - still need to use the correct font for the site name, though.
I keep asking Lee(or anyone) for the font used and i havent heard a peep. Nobody has said who did the sticker design, so i cant track the person down and get the font. I was thinking i would send Phil a message because i have a feeling he might know.
EvoIX_MR2006
07-11-2008, 02:11 PM
Reversing the color is a big pain in the ass. I would have to do a live trace in illustrator and then change colors(if i wanted it to look good).
And yes, i am working too hard on this.. Picky ass ingrates! :p
I keep asking Lee(or anyone) for the font used and i havent heard a peep. Nobody has said who did the sticker design, so i cant track the person down and get the font. I was thinking i would send Phil a message because i have a feeling he might know.
I thought I sent you the font type in PM and you responded to that message??
The font type is Acens.
scrapin_frame
07-11-2008, 02:14 PM
I thought I sent you the font type in PM and you responded to that message??
The font type is Acens.
Ahhhh crap... i just checked.. You're right, you did. My bad!!!!
Well now i feel like a dumbass :no3:
Kazz5
07-11-2008, 02:17 PM
*Acting the part of the bitch homeowner on moving day" Now, if you could just move that gauge a leeeetle but closer to the name...
:D
scrapin_frame
07-11-2008, 02:58 PM
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite4resizea-1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite4resize-1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite3resize-1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite2resize-1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerlast2.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerlast.jpg
scrapin_frame
07-11-2008, 02:59 PM
*Acting the part of the bitch homeowner on moving day" Now, if you could just move that gauge a leeeetle but closer to the name...
:D
:nono2:
scrapin_frame
07-11-2008, 07:49 PM
with correct font
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice16.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice15.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice14.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/cice13.jpg
Johnnyxxtreme
07-11-2008, 08:50 PM
I want a sticker that includes the free fizz gnome on the side !!!
Kazz5
07-12-2008, 09:32 AM
I like the 3rd and 4th example here best. I'm trying to steer away from the boost gauge since not everyone uses forced induction. The overlap is most pleasing, but for clarity, #4 I think I like better.
Awesome work here!
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite4resizea-1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite4resize-1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite3resize-1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite2resize-1.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerlast2.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerlast.jpg
scrapin_frame
07-13-2008, 12:45 AM
I like the 3rd and 4th example here best. I'm trying to steer away from the boost gauge since not everyone uses forced induction. The overlap is most pleasing, but for clarity, #4 I think I like better.
Awesome work here!
Thanks. I like the 3rd as well.
So how long til we put it to a vote?
scrapin_frame
07-18-2008, 05:17 PM
And the crickets chirp away(I think they chirp, not sure what you would call it)
Is there ever gonna be a decision on this?
For the love of god just get rid of that banner that is here now.. i dont care if you use a picture of benny's ass(which there was a pic floating around), just get rid of this god awful creation we currently call our banner.
haunter
07-18-2008, 06:34 PM
3 4 and 5 are great
all 5 are better than whats up there
Kazz5
07-18-2008, 06:37 PM
You got my feedback. That's all that matters, right? :D
"Make it so."
scrapin_frame
07-18-2008, 07:25 PM
You got my feedback. That's all that matters, right? :D
"Make it so."
absolutely..
i really dont car anymore what goes up there. i just cant stand that speedo.. i would rather see fizz in a speedo up there :p
Hinshaw
07-18-2008, 10:38 PM
I like this one personally
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h180/scrapin_frame/bannerwhite3resize-1.jpg
You mother fuckers have way to much free time.
scrapin_frame
07-19-2008, 02:12 AM
You mother fuckers have way to much free time.
I definitely have too much time.. or so some seem to think.. considering how many revisions i had to do :p
Glad to see something was decided upon
Oh yea... Where is my free crap :p
Kazz5
07-19-2008, 12:16 PM
Um.
Dood.
Move the logo to the left.
benny z
07-19-2008, 02:48 PM
a few suggestions:
- make all of the text upper case
- match the red on the tach to the red used on the site
- add a matching thin red line placed horizontally between the logo and text under it
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